john pilger: with all the disasters you’ve seen, how do you have a great deal of hope?
martha gellhorn: i think the world is just as awful as it can be at any given moment, and a certain number of people appear at any given moment and try to keep it from being unbearably awful. [ . . . ] the history behind us is perfectly terrible, the history of now is perfectly terrible, the history ahead of us will be perfectly terrible, but unless we are totally obliterated, there will always be a certain number of people fighting like hell to keep it from being unbearably worse.